Right so I have proposed a new concept:

In big city maps (lv, sf, ls) after the PM runs out of time, he doesn't win: a new objective in the airport gets activated  that he has to reach to win, to help against the whole drive around until you're out of time thing.

This way, the PM has to mix changing hideouts and driving to burn time and then he must reach to the checkpoint, making the game less boring.

mayn guys (remp and uhm) have already approved (and think of creating a test map), but both think that this thang needs to get voted on by the rest of the community.

(if you vote you get temp. membership in UWJ)



EDIT: If you voted yes you can also say your opinion about how to make this concept better

Cool idea, but can't some ppl camp at the airport checkpoint?

That's the idea, even if the PM is a douchebag (driving around), he HAS to go there to win

imo no one's gonna camp for 15 minutes there, but they can go there once there's not a lot of time left and cops and bgs can secure it by then

Yeah well, checkpoint should be in an open area then so that PM can't be behind any buildings etc.
Anyhow I'd say this would be good update.

No.
If you do that, the PMs will drive around till the object is placed, and if he is a good one and goes to a hideout, the terrorists will wait him in the airport. It will ruin the game.

What? Right now, even though most PMs know that it isn't fun to drive around, they still do it and win, because the time runs out. This way even the douchebags who drive around have to go somewhere, where they can be attacked by terrors.
About the second thing, I already said it, no one is going to sit around for 15 minutes when he can try to assault the hideout in the meantime. The airport is just the last stop the PM HAS to make, if he wants to win.

maybe make more places of objectives and when time runs out it picks up randomly one of the objective so the terrorist cant 100% know where will be exactly that objective

That would rock.

The game should literally just pick a random checkpoint, like a race marker or something.


Obviously they wouldn't be totally random though, someone would have to code places for checkpoints to spawn.


But this is a great idea.  ;D

Well I thought about airport in order to keep the "realism", but yeah, I think that a random pre-determined spot is better.

Maybe make checkpoints on airport, near some boat or higway? It would also be realistic and terros wouldnt surely know where is da checkpoint.

Nah... isn't funny reach a checkpoint to win IMHO.

Funny?

Yes... if i cant reach the checkpoint because my car crash i lose, it's just a shit... camp and protect pm is more funny.

But you can still camp through the round, it's just made more fair because this makes you actually have to get off your ass and run for a checkpoint.

i think you mean fun buddy

also, this

Yes but there are noobs that drive around, this is because i dont like this idea... ;)

YES AND WHEN THE TIME RUNS OUT THEY HAVE TO GET TO A CHECKPOINT
THIS IS JUST THE SAME POINT OVER AND OVER










DEAR GOD

Exactly, when the time runs out and people who normally drive round have to get to a checkpoint, he will probably get killed by terrorists for being a noob.

This is awesome.

With campers, it's different because more terrorists would be behind them, and less would camp at the checkpoint.

This is genius.

thanks i lvoe you too

I HADN'T SPEAKED THAT PM CAN REACH THE CHECKPOINT IF THE TIME RUNS OUT, IN THIS CASE I SAY THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA.











DEAR DEVIL

the problem i see with this is that it just encourages the pm to drive around rather than combats it. Theres no incentive to engage the enemy defending something if you have to abandon it, its far easier to just avoid them completely for 15 minutes and have ~30 seconds of action at the end. isnt this basically just lv_obj anyway?

lv obj has a lot of objectives and you have to complete them BEFORE time runs out (I have no idea what happens if you don't complete it and the time runs out), this is an objective that only gets activated once the time runs out

the pm loses on lv_obj if he doesnt complete the objectives in time, which is what would have to happen here. hed have to do it before a certain amount of time has passed or he could ignore it and the round would continue indefinitely, which would effectively make it lv_obj but with only 1 objective and a lot of driving around beforehand

well yeah, i guess you can make the round shorter (like 10-12 mins) and then he has a five minute timer to reach the objective before he loses

the problem with lv_obj is that usually the pm doesn't succeed in doing all the objectives because there are a lot, but in the rare occasion he does make it, it's fun

Maybe we should just add this to certain maps, say like Ls hydra for example.

I said LS hydra because the PM normally camps in madd doggs mansion, so the final objective would have to make him leave.

btw I voted yes, it remains me at the game left 4 dead
you need to survive till your rescuer comes (heli, boat, train)

^

Awesome game... u.u

how about instead have the pm injected with a serum which causes him to loose health continually.  He gets a lot back by hitting checkpoints (like LV) but wins the game by the last checkpoint (hostpital?).  means you have to stop now and again or die.

other ideas for stopping pm driving round is have driveby zalewbot and slow cars for pm.

I dunno, this sounds like it would be extremely hard to survive

I think that we have enough votes for at least a test map, no?

Wouldn't have to lose health that quick, just enough to stop him being a noob drive rounder.  Snipers ftw, don't take them out , purrrrrleeeeeeesssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Wouldn't a few medics be able to constantly heal him as he drives around? It negates the effect of him losing health if two medics constantly heal him and each other.

I say yes, make a random spwm point at around 12 minutes, and the Pm has to reach it. Good idea ^^
Maybe we can also make a map that is entirely indoors, the terrorists spawm on a roof near that building (pm cannot leave it the building) And the bodyguards and cops have to protect him. The terrors chute/use helicopter to get on top of the building.When the bodyguards/cops protect the PM make it to the 10 minute mark, a door opens to the outside were the PM has to go and drive to the airport to win (terror spawn changes when door opens, somewhere along the road)

sounds like a good (new) concept.

How about of the main hideouts there is a checkpoint on them? Like SF, the pm can choose what checkpoint to open up (say he chooses the ship). He has to choose it within 1 minute and it gets shown to everyone when theirs 5 mins left. So t's can camp at it if hes driving around but he can go to it to hideout before hand safely.

Its teh Wuzi!!!
I think its a good idea, but it can be a bit abusive...

Hehehe, Rambo told me ptpm was back up. I'll try to find my disk and install :D I'll get friends to play too.

Hi wuzi :O

:o iKent told this to me too

Great! :D everyone's back yeh?

what have you people done with my topic








fake edit: sup woozie

wtf man
jesis

so we were testing and betaing over at remps
and you werent there
any way
sf rescue is awesome
it has planes
and rpgs
and a tank.

wait I haven't been following this, would be it airport finish on lv, sf, and ls? cause I think maybe we should only do it on one.

we made a new map to try it out on, not modified an existing one (and its in sf)

okay. I'll try to get on sometime. i can see ls being cool with that too. how has it gone so far? (has the pm actually survived to that point?)

not very many have, but once people get to know the layout better it should get easier to figure out suitable tactics

this is a good idea however we should have something to avoid the ptpm racing around in a car waiting for the timer to run out xD

you forgot the tank

U can make a bazooka spawn at terror spot when the pm is to long in the car, tank isn't really fast to catch up...

Also, the bazooka should despawn if pm is out of the vehicle for x amount of time (and bazooka removed from players who hold it.)

wouldnt it be better and easier to give a random terrorist the bazooka ?

yo dawg do u know wherez bazooka on sf, cos ders a bug to shoot rocket on someone elses screen but not in yours (so u dont waste ammo) pleas guise tell me :(